Henry Savage, born about 1825, presumably in Nottingham, is where our line of Savage’s begins.
As yet, we have no birth record, nor do we have a marriage record for him and Emma Scott. What we do have is quite a collection of newspaper articles, with mention of Henry (sometimes known as Harry) and his Emma Scott, aka Mrs “Savidge”, and the birth records of his children, a few of which we have not been able to pick up their trail.
Henry has been a bit of an enigma. Our first legal record of him is his daughters birth, Eliza Savage, born in 1851. This is all we know of Eliza, although someone has come to me believing she might have become a Catholic, changed her name to Mary Elizabeth, and married at St. Barnabas after getting baptized at the age of 20 in 1871.
The Birth Certificate shows him married to Emma Savage, formerly Scott. Also states that he’s a Shoe Maker. Later records would also show him as a Cordwainer (Shoe Maker). This is doubtful as there is no record of him having an apprenticeship. He likely had a friend or close family member that was a Cordwainer, and might have known some basics, but no formal training. It was also stated that he was a Journeyman, which is someone selling their wares on the side of the road. His later troubles would discount his claim to be a Cordwainer as he would have lost his apprenticeship getting into legal trouble.
In 1856, his son Henry Savage is born. In 1858, the birth of James “Savidge”, to Emma Savidge, formerly Scott. In 1860, the birth of James Savage. James would later take on the surname of Scott-Savage, for reasons we can only assume at this point to distance himself from his fathers name.
The first time we hear about Henry in the newspapers is October 1849 when he was arrested for intending to fight in a Prize Fight in Basford. He was ordered to pay expenses of 14s, and entered into his own recognizance of £10, and to find a surety in the same amount. John Hibbert of Glasshouse Lane was accepted as his bond. He was then “liberated”.
It would be 9 years before I would find him in the Newspaper again (for now). December 1858, Henry Savage (a pugilist) and Henry Sharpe (a Cordwainer), were taken before Lord Belper and the magistrates charged with having committed burglary at the Sir Robert Peel beer house in Sneinton, stealing £40 of gold, the property of Mr Duffy, the landlord, whom had just returned from a gold digging expedition in Australia. They both denied the charges, although Sharpe was positively identified. Charges were dropped and no stolen property was recovered.
Next, in July 1862, Henry Savage living on Commerce Street was charged with having 21 lbs of stolen tea in his possession. A search of his house revealed house breaking implements and a bank book showing monies saved. Money found in the house he said were winnings from betting on horses, and stated that he received 6s 6d per week from the Union. He had also been receiving relief claiming to be a pauper, some of which he was ordered to pay back.
In July of 1863, he and Joseph Walsh, a FWK (Frame Work Knitter) were involved with breaking into a warehouse on Orchard Street in Radford belonging to John Allcock. Evidence was inconclusive and they were released.
More Later – Not the last of Henry.
I’m very curious about Henry Scott or what ever his name may be. Searching for our fathers family (tree) has lead to Dead End Trails. Our father Gaylord Lee Scott, his father Paul Edward Scott, then G Grandfather Roy Lee Scott, then Henry Scott, 4th generation. Our father had stated that the Scott name had either been changed or could be spelling. My family tree in my baby book 1956 reflects, Henry Scott married to a Emma Scott.
Hi Sandra,
Henry was a Savage, and Emma was the Scott. I have a number of birth certificates for their children and newspaper articles of them being in trouble that makes the distinction.
Name changes or variations of names are/were quite common, and census records do not always reflect the accurate spelling as some could not read, and others were not home at the time of the census. The Census taker would then get the information from the neighbors that were home, which is why sometimes you will find variations of ages of a few years (or more) or odd spellings from different decades.
We do have a line of “Scott-Savage”. This was one of the four children of Henry Savage & Emma Scott, Alfred.
We are not certain, but believe there may have been embarrassment due to Henry (Alfred’s father) being in and out of prison.
We do know that the Scott-Savage / Scott Savage surname continues to this day, going back to Alfred Savage.
I do not have a Roy or a Paul in that line of “Scott Savage”.
DNA Testing on Ancestry has helped me open up parts of my tree, and build backwards from other matches to see how we connect.
Good luck, hope to hear of your progress. You never know, we could still be related somehow.
Thank you for responding. My sister and have completed the DNA a year ago. Found Scotts, just can not dot the lines. Thanks anyway Sandy